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		<title>By: Bookmarks about Finances</title>
		<link>http://blog.beatingdebt.org/2008/07/15/we-can-but-should-we-finances/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookmarks about Finances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - bookmarked by 5 members originally found by misterdeity on 2008-10-01  We Can, But Should We? Finances  http://beatingdebt.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/we-can-but-should-we-finances/ - bookmarked by 6 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
		<link>http://blog.beatingdebt.org/2008/07/15/we-can-but-should-we-finances/#comment-233</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with gtrj, and it is difficult to &#039;earn&#039; more money if you don&#039;t have the time or means to do it because of health, family obligations, time constraints, etc.  Americans can &#039;earn&#039; money by not spending so much and getting rid of the stuff they have via yard sales, websites, by couponing at the grocery store (personally I usually buy the store brand), going out only with a coupon in hand, yet being careful that coupons don&#039;t make you spend more than you normally would have.
I think the main message is that being in debt confines us so that we do not have the freedom to give to good causes, to needy families/countries/organizations.  When we allow ourselves to spend more than we make in a month, then we limit our freedom of expression, money-wise.  It takes on the form of spiritual bondage as well as financial.  How one spends their money is often an indication of their heart condition.  Although everything is permissable, all things are not needful or beneficial to my spiritual, financial, or marital condition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with gtrj, and it is difficult to &#8216;earn&#8217; more money if you don&#8217;t have the time or means to do it because of health, family obligations, time constraints, etc.  Americans can &#8216;earn&#8217; money by not spending so much and getting rid of the stuff they have via yard sales, websites, by couponing at the grocery store (personally I usually buy the store brand), going out only with a coupon in hand, yet being careful that coupons don&#8217;t make you spend more than you normally would have.<br />
I think the main message is that being in debt confines us so that we do not have the freedom to give to good causes, to needy families/countries/organizations.  When we allow ourselves to spend more than we make in a month, then we limit our freedom of expression, money-wise.  It takes on the form of spiritual bondage as well as financial.  How one spends their money is often an indication of their heart condition.  Although everything is permissable, all things are not needful or beneficial to my spiritual, financial, or marital condition.</p>
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		<title>By: gtrj</title>
		<link>http://blog.beatingdebt.org/2008/07/15/we-can-but-should-we-finances/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>gtrj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig, 

Most programs focus on saving and responsible spending because a majority of people can&#039;t or won&#039;t find ways to earn more money.  Finding higher paying jobs usually requires more education or experience, both of which require time and money.  People who have fiscal issues need help NOW.  The quickest fixes are to change spending and saving habits.

That being said, I don&#039;t disagree with you on the importance of earning money.  I don&#039;t want to be anyone&#039;s burden when I get to &quot;that age&quot; or have &quot;that disability&quot; or whatever.  I&#039;m a huge proponent of education and encourage everyone to get at least their undergraduate degrees.  A degree is a very expensive piece of paper, but in the long run, it sure pays off!

As far as American wastefulness goes, do you know of any program or non-profit organization that takes in old technology for the needy?  Also, it&#039;s incumbent upon us to make sure we know where our stuff comes from.  Like you said, we need to be responsible stewards.  This applies to how we use our money, who we support (however indirectly) with the money we spend, how we use our time, etc.

Thanks for provoking my thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig, </p>
<p>Most programs focus on saving and responsible spending because a majority of people can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t find ways to earn more money.  Finding higher paying jobs usually requires more education or experience, both of which require time and money.  People who have fiscal issues need help NOW.  The quickest fixes are to change spending and saving habits.</p>
<p>That being said, I don&#8217;t disagree with you on the importance of earning money.  I don&#8217;t want to be anyone&#8217;s burden when I get to &#8220;that age&#8221; or have &#8220;that disability&#8221; or whatever.  I&#8217;m a huge proponent of education and encourage everyone to get at least their undergraduate degrees.  A degree is a very expensive piece of paper, but in the long run, it sure pays off!</p>
<p>As far as American wastefulness goes, do you know of any program or non-profit organization that takes in old technology for the needy?  Also, it&#8217;s incumbent upon us to make sure we know where our stuff comes from.  Like you said, we need to be responsible stewards.  This applies to how we use our money, who we support (however indirectly) with the money we spend, how we use our time, etc.</p>
<p>Thanks for provoking my thoughts!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Finch</title>
		<link>http://blog.beatingdebt.org/2008/07/15/we-can-but-should-we-finances/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Finch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think budgeting is great.  Reducing spending and consumption is great.  It&#039;s good stewardship of our personal finances, and it&#039;s good for our character to remember that the things of this world can never bring true satisfaction.  So, I&#039;m not disagreeing with any of these points, but every Christian finance program repeats this message ad nauseum.  Granted, it&#039;s a message that so many people in our Western culture need to hear, but it&#039;s not the whole story.  I think you could really break some new ground by considering some unexplored aspects of the problem.

What about our responsibility to steward the resources of the Earth as a whole?  What happens to last year&#039;s computers, monitors, and mp3 players when they head to the landfill?  What are the working conditions for the miners in Africa who mine the diamonds for our jewelery, and the tantalum used to make capacitors in all of our electronic gadgets?  How does our consumer behavior impact the environment?  I&#039;m not sure that religious America really thinks about this.

What about EARNING money?  The Christian finance plans I&#039;m familiar with all deal with spending and saving, but the earning side of the equation is left out.  You can only save and budget to a certain point.  It&#039;s not considered &quot;spiritual&quot; to ask God for a higher income, but the Bible makes it clear that wealth itself is not bad.  It&#039;s widel accepted that every Christian should, within their circumstances, do their best to avoid becoming a burden to anyone.  Is it right to accept Social Security or Medicare if you don&#039;t really need it?  How do I go about earning enough money that I never need to receive charity, and instead provide help to others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think budgeting is great.  Reducing spending and consumption is great.  It&#8217;s good stewardship of our personal finances, and it&#8217;s good for our character to remember that the things of this world can never bring true satisfaction.  So, I&#8217;m not disagreeing with any of these points, but every Christian finance program repeats this message ad nauseum.  Granted, it&#8217;s a message that so many people in our Western culture need to hear, but it&#8217;s not the whole story.  I think you could really break some new ground by considering some unexplored aspects of the problem.</p>
<p>What about our responsibility to steward the resources of the Earth as a whole?  What happens to last year&#8217;s computers, monitors, and mp3 players when they head to the landfill?  What are the working conditions for the miners in Africa who mine the diamonds for our jewelery, and the tantalum used to make capacitors in all of our electronic gadgets?  How does our consumer behavior impact the environment?  I&#8217;m not sure that religious America really thinks about this.</p>
<p>What about EARNING money?  The Christian finance plans I&#8217;m familiar with all deal with spending and saving, but the earning side of the equation is left out.  You can only save and budget to a certain point.  It&#8217;s not considered &#8220;spiritual&#8221; to ask God for a higher income, but the Bible makes it clear that wealth itself is not bad.  It&#8217;s widel accepted that every Christian should, within their circumstances, do their best to avoid becoming a burden to anyone.  Is it right to accept Social Security or Medicare if you don&#8217;t really need it?  How do I go about earning enough money that I never need to receive charity, and instead provide help to others?</p>
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